Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Bip Bleep BLop, When is music not music?

After listening to a bunch of Boards of Canada, Autechre, some Aphex, and this new Valet album I got, started thinking about what constitutes music, or a song specifically.

Most, but not all of these, are electronic, Valet is kinda mood music in the vein of some My Bloody Valentine, and plenty of other artists like Atari Teenage Riot and Sonic Youth go full bore into noise rock when they ditch formal songs, and there's a million similiar groups. At what point does repetitive drony noise, or random bleeps and blops constitute music? I'll say ahead of time I love all these artists, but a lot of them have devoted great lengths of albums to apparent random noise along with forays into quieter minimalist stuff. There's plenty of structure in some of them, with some just an underlying beat with no particular noise above it repeated again at any point of a 'song'.

There's been plenty of similiar ground covered, even well before with free jazz and the like, but if you had to try and pin it down, what really constitutes music versus random noise? And further, if it is just random noise, how do we differentiate goodness in relation to a really shitty band that at least tried to put structure to a piece? Is it in the effort, or the outcome?

5 comments:

Rickles said...

Music is something that moves you. Most of the stuff your talking about didn't touch me so i wouldnt call it music. but if you like it then their it is music.

Lee said...

music can be different things to different people. take things like ktl or sunn which are just drones of at times almost white noise. i like stuff like this a lot but many people would not consider it music. and others might even consider the ocean or traffic music.

and then there are people like weylin who considers the sweet sound of man sex the most beautiful music ever.

dRchunkerton said...

music is the sound of a childs laughter, the expolsion of an airbag saving your life...

no seriously, music such a broad word, and thanks to technology and exposure, is becoming more and more broad. i've always thought of the cicada noise we get all summer long as a kind of music, which brings up another thought- does music even have to be created conciously? i would say no...that when music is created, it is meaningless UNTIL it is heard and considered...even if the only person hearing it is it's creator...

and i do think that music moved you rickels, it moved you to boredom and indiffrence to it, which is fine if that's your opinion. but it did effect you....

Rickles said...

it's impossible to have no reaction to stimulus(even that is a reaction). my point was is that it wasn't something that turned me on.

dRchunkerton said...

rickles is a fag. react to that.